players wear out after some time. Because he’s highly opinionated like Schilling. Ryan Dempster I believe? You’re an uninformed clown. perhaps he wanted to play but they didnt want to pay him all the money. Consider that Maz played in the dead-ball era and Kinsler, Kent and others played in the superball era with smaller fields before you compare stats. Plus low production. When I did pay attention to him for that two – three week stretch, he only hit like 2 homers. Ian Kinsler is retiring from baseball after 14 seasons. Yeah, yeah, I think I will… …retire. I was under the impression that when a player retires they forfeit their contract. But Kinsler is against showing emotion, right? The Padres are not looking for productive players. Good luck Mr. Kinsler, cheers to a wonderful career!! ForDoingNothing he is taking a job with the Padres Front Office. Glad to see him make this decision instead of just playing for a paycheck. who cares how much money he has made in his career? … Kinsler has 1999 career hits – so close. Kinsler, 37, was still owed $4.25 million for 2020 and is expected to work out a settlement with the Padres before moving into an unspecified management role. I wish him the best going forward…. It’s the traditional stats that make everyone seem terrible. Ken … Grich and Whitaker are both top 10 2B all time. Trade rumors Kirby and Myers for a No.2 SP, and a Top 50 prospect, of course Friars eat 1/2 of his salary. Always enjoyed watching Ian play. Kinsler hadn’t been in the form he or the team hoped when he signed on this time last year. Ian Kinsler Announces Retirement By Jeff Todd | December 20, 2019 at 4:32pm CDT Padres second baseman Ian Kinsler has announced his retirement, as … In August 2017, Detroit Tigers second baseman Ian Kinsler was fined $10,000 by MLB, for critical comments he made about Hernández. In many cases the time of employment and salary are fixed and there is little to no negotiating. How much time do you need to finish to be eligible for the MLB pension? Realmuto Day-To-Day With Injuries, How To Set Up Notifications For Breaking News. Kinsler, 37, was still owed $4.25 million for 2020 and is expected to work out a settlement with the Padres before moving into an unspecified management role. Now begins a five-year waiting period to see whether Kinsler will gain traction among voters. The Boston Red Sox landed him at the trade deadline in 2018 before going on to win the World Series, after which he joined the Padres. You and your 10 dollar an hour janitor job aren’t the same thing. My guess, the pads got him to stretch the deal into a million a year for the next four years. At the same time, the employee is expected to perform a job and meet certain standards. You’re the only one here I disagree with 99% of the time. It's time to do something else. Ian Kinsler Newsstand Retirement San Diego Padres Transactions, guess playing for the Padres makes people want to retire….sad, I personally enjoyed the Bill Hall reference. fame is not defined as only those who are the elite talent. Padres’ Ian Kinsler retires as player, remains with club. Sure they were. Always enjoyed watching Kinsler play – ball player. So he ruins Luis Urias’ Padres career and then retires shortly after he gets traded. Serving in the front office and being groomed for a head coaching position somewhere. Preller is bad. it’s called the hall of fame. We are surrounded by these genuflecting dullards nowadays. Player after player has volunteered what an effect Ian Kinsler had on them. Several umpires argued that the replay system did not provide clear enough pictures, and the system was later changed. 1 hit shy of 2000! You should go to your boss and demand a guarantee based on your skills. Of more immediate concern is the impact on the Padres roster. We all knew there was no way Ian Kinsler was going to … Here’s to rooting for him to work with the Umpire’s Association upon retiring. The Friars have an additional slot and some added financial flexibility to work with in structuring their preferred alignment. By Jeff Todd | December 20, 2019 at 4:32pm CDTIn a stunning growth, Padres second baseman Ian Kinsler has determined to retire, based on Ken Rosenthal of The Athletic (by way of Twitter; full article by way of subscription hyperlink). For which they will pay him….right? Ian Kinsler is retiring after a 14-year major league career, he announced Friday. Man I don’t know why everyone said he was a sure fire hall of famer!!!! Ian Kinsler came into Thursday night’s game hitting .171 with a .546 OPS. Seemed like he got picked off more than anyone on the Rangers all those years. To my memory, Mike Cuddyer’s the only one who just flat out retired, leaving some significant coin on the table. Ian Kinsler has retired after playing great for the Texas Rangers and Detroit Tigers during his Major League Baseball career. Whenever a player of his ilk retires we must ask, is he the greatest 2B (keystone position) of all time? I remember all too well Kinsler’s exit from the Rangers. “Ian had a long and distinguished career and will go down as one of the best second basemen of his generation,” said Padres general manager A.J. It amazes me that these guys play a sport,have someone stupid enough to give them a big contract even though they are not proven,then do not give a darn about playing well. Five years from now there’s not a chance that even the most hardcore baseball fans outside of Boston remember that. No drama MELCHEZ. oh wow. Gosh, really. Best of luck. depends. I don’t miss him but having more roster flexibility that time of year is huge. Strike Four-Ian Kinsler has made over $100,000,000 in his career for playing baseball. Ask your boss to guarantee you a salary for the next two years the next time you’re negotiating a raise or with a new potential employer. The Past & Future. Kinsler will be remembered most for his eight-year run with the Rangers. They just didn’t know it. Amanda? Kinsler was a four-time All Star, two-time Gold Glove winner, and a member of the 2018 World Series champion Bosto… With that said, he had an 8-10 year run where he was one of, if not the best, all-around 2nd basemen in MLB. He and Pedroia have a bit of a rivalry so it was interesting that they were in the same dugout. Absolutely ridiculous that the Padres have to negotiate what Kindler gets. I want to say it was 13 million bucks. He’s need to put about 30 lbs of muscle on that frame and play LF like he really knows what he’s doing. Always liked Kinzler. You played with enthusiasm and with a kid-like spirit everyday. Though he wasn’t able to play to his typical standard or log his 2,000th hit in 2019, Kinsler did make his first and only appearance on the MLB mound, turning in a scoreless frame. Great glove too. Kinsler has never hit below the mendoza line. It is not his fault that an idiot owner or general manager gave him that contract. I hardly know you. Bring under just about anything A scrapper with style. True, the fact that Lou Whitaker still isn’t in the hall is a disgrace. I can’t believe anyone thinks he should be in the HOF. At least they got a decent bullpen arm (Buttrey) when then unloaded him on the Sox. Pic credit: Detroit Tigers/YouTube. He had quite the career of being a lead off man with great power. or the hall of the truly best that ever played the game. Not that it should really matter. Who is next? I still see Kinsler pop ups in my nightmares. If you retire you get nothing that’s left over. I loved this guy. In his last season, Babe Ruth played in 28 games, hit .181 with six homers. Seems to me you either want to play or no.Seems to me that the team either wants you or not.If there was some sort of half way deal between them it is their business and no one else’s. 4 all star games… the best he could muster in MVP voting was 11th. Mostly because of fantasy baseball, but he was fun to watch, antics aside. Kinsler, 37, told The Athletic that a herniated cervical disk that ended his 2019 season in August played a factor in his decision to retire. More players should do this when they get to this age and their skills erode as much as his did over the past 2+ years. he is unbelievably qualified. She was there once, dude! I loved him. Geeze MELCHEZ. He ends his career one hit shy of 2,000, with 257 home runs, 909 RBIs and 243 stolen bases. Good night, Coleman. Jeff Kent… is that an echo I hear? I love when folks cry and point to their stupid lives. Rosenthal: “I gave it everything I had” — Ian Kinsler retires, moving to a front-office role with the Padres . Now, the path is cleared all the more for recently acquired second baseman Jurickson Profar, who’ll presumably be supplemented by Greg Garcia at second. Gold glove fielder with clutch hit for average. I agree with the others. "Ian had a long and distinguished career and will go down as one of the best second basemen of his generation," Padres general manager A.J. 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Solid player… not HOF calibre in my opinion, but if Harold Baines is a HOFer then whatever I guess. You and I would play for next to nothing. I thoroughly enjoyed watching you play over the years, especially as a Tiger. If he had signed with the DBacks one of the first two times they drafted him, (in 2000 in the 29th round as a high school senior, then again in 2001 in the 26th round when he was going to Central Arizona College. Veteran infielder Ian Kinsler will retire after 14 major league seasons, with one year remaining on his contract, and make a move into the San Diego Padres… Exactly what is […] He’ll move into the San Diego front office as an adviser. I should have checked before I posted but if you would have watched him last year this would come as no surprise as he was constantly late to the ball and definitely wore down physically; great ball player in his prime but no surprise about his retirement especially after he got injured. MLB Power Rankings: Who passed the Dodgers for our No. Kinsler, a four-time All-Star, spent eight seasons with the Texas Rangers before a 2013 trade to the Detroit Tigers, followed by another trade to the Los Angeles Angels four years later. Same with Kinsler. He probably worked some kind of deal where he took some bucks to get out of the way. Get over Urias when the guy hits ovder .280 in a single season I’ll be the first to say, we should have kept him, in the meantime I see no loss. Kinsler ended up having a productive, four-year stint in Detroit before rounding out his career with brief stops with the Angels, Red Sox, and Friars. this makes the assumption that playing LF or 1b is as easy as 2b. "I gave it everything I had. Veteran infielder Ian Kinsler will retire after 14 major league seasons, with one year remaining on his contract, and make a move into the San Diego Padres front office, The Athletic reported Friday. Nothing to do with the Padres. Over 8,299 trips to the plate in the majors, he slashed .269/.337/.440 with 257 home runs and 243 stolen bases. It’s getting so that everyone gets in. And doesn’t that just make you want to punch him in the face lol. I don’t think I’ve seen a more ignorant, narrow-minded comment on this site since I started looking at it daily in 2014. Ian Kinsler mentioned to reporters that this was a significant factor in his decision to retire, with him finalizing his comments by saying that if he couldn’t give his 100%, he wouldn’t be happy. San Diego Padres second baseman Ian Kinsler announced Friday he's decided to retire from MLB and will accept a position in the club's front office. . He was a good clutch hitter,and hit the most important game winning home run in baseball history in 1960.That was probably the reason that Ted Williams did not want him in the HOF although Ted thought that only great hitters should get in. The time comes for everyone. Most players who are considered great 2B perhaps are only because they play 2B, where historically weak offensive players play. For whatever reason he’s been totally overlooked. The janitor probably has actual honor. Ian Kinsler Retires as a Long-Shot Hall of Fame Candidate On Friday, San Diego Padres second baseman Ian Kinsler announced that he was retiring after a 14-season Major League Baseball career. Called for cynicism is allowed, and one day contracts must be signed in crayon. Kinsler would finish a year shy if I’m right. It’s this mentality that has allowed players like Harold Baines, Alan Trammell and Ted Simmons (not to mention Lee Smith and Bruce Sutter) into the HOF. Kinsler wasn’t clogging up a ton of payroll space but would’ve occupied an active roster spot and commanded a decent amount of playing time. Sad. So, based on your assessment, Rizutto should be nowhere near the Hall. Was on only two ballots I believe. Veteran outfielder Nick Markakis is calling it a career after 15 seasons at … Fans have begun to express their sadness towards this retirement via social media platforms like Twitter and Facebook. I still can’t believe Harold Baines got in. 2nd basemen need their own hall at this point. He was a perennially above-average hitter who excelled in the field and on the basepaths. If he was on an team that already had an established 2B what would his career look like? When did Bill Hall play for the Padres? Doesn’t he kinda look like that actor James Franco…. Solid career similar to Sweet Lou in Detroit. Some people are a bit ignorant of BB history when there was a greater emphasis on defense and fundamentals. sports Rangers. People weren’t obsessed with stats. Veteran infielder Ian Kinsler will retire after 14 major league seasons, with one year remaining on his contract, and make a move into the San Diego Padres front office, The Athletic reported Friday. Lee Smith was one of the first great closers. He didn’t debut until he was 24. By Jeff Todd | December 20, 2019 at 4:32pm CDT. Kinsler will stay on with the San Diego Padres as an adviser to baseball operations. He had a great career. His employer thought enough of his skills to guarantee him a salary with a contract. He is not in!!! Billy Pierce was 1 strikeout away from 2,000. 2016 for the tigers was a monster year for him. But back then it didn’t matter. clearly the Pads wanted to cut a deal and they did. Good luck Ian. I think had he arrived at age 22, which he probably would have, that extra 1200 PA’s and counting stats might have given him a higher profile. Veteran infielder Ian Kinsler will retire after 14 major league seasons, with one year remaining on his contract, and make a move into the San Diego Padres front office, The Athletic reported Friday. Congrats on a great career. Padres’ Ian Kinsler retires as player, remains with club Ian Kinsler celebrates with teammates during the 2019 season. "We're excited to have him join our front office to share his passion for the game and experience as a World Series champion. Led the league in at bats and plate appearances one year. Everyone has an opinion. (Hayne Palmour IV/The San … He’s washed up and probably should retire. If a 2B did all that and hit a career .276 with 2,000 hits he was indeed a candidate. Career: 257 HR, .269 BA, 909 RBI, 2B, 4xAllStar, 2xGG, Rangers/Tigers/... 2006-2019, b:R/t:R, born in AZ 1982, Bootsie the true definition of a player that was on the red sox, that nobody ever knew was on the red sox, all the best ian! You cannot retire with x,999 hits. Though it seems unlikely he’ll command a plaque in Cooperstown, Kinsler turned in an undeniably outstanding career — all the more impressive considering he was a 17th-round draft pick. That said, Kinsler’s deal is and was a huge ripoff. Folks tend to forget he was almost the definition of a great fielding 2Bman…..great in-game skills…. I appreciate the way you played the game. Kinsler could have stayed on for the year, probably on the 60 day IL due to his neck and collected his full salary, but it’s obvious that he and the team struck for him to retire and give the team SOME payroll relief, but he’ll certainly be paid something for his decision to retire early. maybe they cut a deal to get out from under part of his contract. Kinsler says that malady also influenced his decision to call it quits. Probably not a HOF, but that doesn’t mean it wasnt a solid run. She is a little bossy. Since money is still owed on a contract, it makes sense to have him work. it’s to illustrate that your comment of changing the name to the hall of very good is equally ridiculous. Perhaps a compromise can be made. Who is David Wright? that’s why numbers it’s ridiculous to use numbers alone to account for fame. Four-time All-Star second baseman Ian Kinsler retires Kinsler, 37, the son of a Jewish father and Catholic mother, brings to an end a career spanning 14 years in … to be honest, Riz probably shouldnt be in the hall, though there are plenty of worse HoFers. It seems that Kinsler is already preparing for the next chapter in his personal and professional life. Kinsler picked up a ring with the 2018 Red Sox. That will be subject to negotiations between the team and its now-former player. He is an advisor in the front office for the San Diego Padres. So this should provide some payroll relief correct? He should get nothing, Why you acting like this effects your wallet. He didn’t simply retire. I bet he was going to be DFAd, or traded so he retired, Another doozy of signing by AJ Misfit of GM, I see Garcia as the No.1 2B platooning with ? By Ken Rosenthal Dec 20, 2019. didn’t get 2,000 hits or have a .300 or better lifetime avg he’s not getting in the hof. Relative to the tangential, Sandberg’s retirement was a bit shocking as he wasn’t far from his prime. EMERSON? HOF if he goes in as a Padre lol! 'This is just where I belong': Inside Drew Robinson's return to the field, The State of Baseball: Inside the biggest questions MLB is facing with the future of the sport at stake. I’ve never really seen Trout play, he can’t be too good. Hank Aaron hit .229 with 10 homers in 85 games. He could hit for power, average, steal 30+ bases per year and was incredible defensively as well. Former Red Sox Second Baseman Ian Kinsler Retires From Baseball. Maybe talk to Amanda. He still didn’t sign…..and ultimately was drafted out of Missouri by the Rangers in 2003 in the 17th round, So improving his draft position from 29 to 17 didn’t make him any extra money, but it cost him at least 2 years longer to reach the majors. We’re stuck with this guy at least for another year, $22M down the drain. Get the latest news, stats, videos, highlights and more about second baseman Ian Kinsler on ESPN. They traded for Profar to fill his spot. :(. Kinsler has had a solid career. See, baseball doesn’t discriminate, because it’s a skill game, not an athletic one! HOF voters don’t like that. I think Kinsler routinely crossed them. or the hall of elite. Speak for yourself. Well done. Check out HOF second baseman Bill Mazeroski’s stats. Top X 2B of all time is meaningless though. While that tenure ended with some acrimony when Kinsler was dealt to the Tigers, he thanked the organization in his comments to Rosenthal. Hope he becomes some sort of Spring Training couch or something. entering into comments. If you break the contract you are likely to get nothing. A career .276 hitter with fewer than 2,400 hits and little power. He likely was not going to give away the 4 million, force them to release you or use a roster spot and get paid. This guy is not hof material .. as long as Sweet Lou is not considered HOF worthy …. By Steve Adams | March 12, 2021 at 10:56pm CDT. Props to him for leaving while he couldn’t produce. Would you like to retire with that sort of wealth in your late 30’s? Kinsler had said that Hernández was a bad umpire, and "needs to find another job." Mays his .211 with 6 homers in 66 games in his final season. Kinsler just doesn’t have it anymore. what I just said is absolutely ridiculous. Best wishes, stop thinking hes Cal Ripken, ok? You’re not a pro ball player. No hitting under .200 for three years will do that; plus he is stepping aside and taking a coaching/front office role so we can actually fill his spot with someone productive. He had a great run but, as is for all of us, it ends. Rewarding people for a lifetime of work, in a profession you cannot be in past 40, is a completely not-insane thing to happen. What’s all the fuss about this guy? The announcement of Ian Kinsler to retire from Major League Baseball on Friday will have a huge impact on the San Diego Padres in 2020. Pete Incaviglia? And no, I’m not comparing Kinsler to Ruth in any sense, but if you are going to say that about a player because you only saw his last season, it’s not valid. Kinsler, 37, told The Athletic that a herniated cervical disk that ended his 2019 season in August played a factor in his decision to retire. Does he need further reward for retiring? Myers with his attitude is worth 1/3 of what they’re paying him, and believe me Myers is not trying his best at least not on the field. Name one year he hit below .200. Former Rangers second baseman Ian Kinsler retires, will remain in Padres’ front office Kinsler was a three-time All-Star at Texas and was on both World Series teams. Pretty sure this is a forced retirement, like the Yankees did to ARod. Career and best of luck in your late 30 ’ s not a of. 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